1. Nichole

    (the content of the comment is
    directed towards individual abortions based on a person’s convenience, not
    health issues meaning the possibility of death, or rape)

    I find your comments on abortion extremely
    disturbing. You compared the choice between an abortion to a cremation and organ
    donation. You demonstrate an unequal comparison between a person making a
    decision that has direct consequences on a separate developing human being
    which has no ability to voice his or her rights, to a decision that effects only
    that individual person life. The Sexual Revolution  changed our societies views as well as sexual
    practices. With these newly developed rights come an enhanced responsibility.
    You want to spread your legs without protection, fine, your life, but the
    minute you decide to abuse your rights is the minute your power to make future
    decisions based upon the previous is gone. When did accountability evade our
    culture? We are all accountable for our decisions! You want to make an apples
    to apples comparison, try murder. The minute you take another’s life is the
    minute your freedoms are gone. Is that not justice? So the next question that
    comes up naturally is when is this baby alive? I write murder but murder
    involves killing another living human. So is our distinction based upon
    breathing? Or is it pain? Coherent? Able to contribute to society?  If that baby can feel its limbs being pulled
    apart, then is it wrong? Most medical studies have found that a fetus’ anterior
    cingulate, which is a part of the cerebral cortex that registers pain, is fully
    functional between 10-26 weeks (the evidence is currently limited). In 2010,
    Nebraska banned abortion based on fetal pain after 20 weeks. Eight other states
    have passed laws that include information about fetal pain into state-appointed
    abortion documents. Do you know what the proponents for pro-choice want to do
    with this new information? They want to offer anesthesia to the mother to
    reassure her that the baby won’t feel anything as you pull its body apart. I
    think now is a great time to start discussing corrupt fat fingers in business,
    regardless of how horrid it is. Have you ever read any of the medical
    procedures that are done? Why don’t you google suction aspiration, dilation and
    curettage, dilation and evacuation. Even better, become an expert before you
    start advocating for something you know little about besides what looks good on
    paper, watch one. They are online. Watch as the use a vacuum to suck out tissue
    like a wet vac sucking up water from a flooded basement full of drywall.  

    So if your point is general, that
    government should have a say in any personal 
    decisions then why not go a level that you are so keen at acquiring, the
    extreme. Why not kill newborns? They serve no civil purpose the general public,
    not yet? If parents don’t want their newborns, it’s their personal decision
    right? They are just a burden on society and it’s my child out of my body, my
    decision. Oh wait, this isn’t right, why? Because they can feel pain, are cognitive,
    breathe air? Where’s the line Brooke? Only when the “problem” (which is
    ironically from my own free will choice) is inside my body?

    I sometimes wonder why people
    think that the destruction of time-standing morals need so desperately to be
    destroyed. I believe it stems from a constant need to feel that no one has the right
    to dictate our lives, for what do our parents do throughout our youth? Then
    again, when do we ever feel like we are grown up?

    “dante.”, when is it ok to make a
    decision to kill another living human being?


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      Okay, first things first, I attempted to edit your comment to replace the usage of my real name with my pseudonym.   Please refrain from utilizing my real name, as I try to ensure that in no way my personal life/opinions are leaked into my military/professional life. 

      Now, onto the business of discussion!

      – I urge you to please go back and re-read my perspective on abortion.  At no time did I ever speak on whether or not abortion is “right” or “wrong,” although I can see how my comparisons may have led you to misunderstand my position.  The point of me utilizing those comparisons is due to the fact that those are all controversial decisions, that affect more than one person (think of that person’s family and community), and can be viewed differently based upon a person’s personal faith. 

      Also, I think you may have overlooked some key lines in my concluding statement.  At no time did I ever profess to be a medical professional/expert.  I do not have a nursing degree, nor have I ever conducted or undergone an abortion procedure.  In addition, I have, in fact, seen abortion procedure clips and I agree, they are absolutely horrifying.  The perspectives stated within this post are merely ideas and perspectives that are always changing as I continue to learn and grow. 

      – If you’ve ever read any of my past posts on abortion, I’ve always explicitly stated my personal opinion that abortion is wrong.  I have never had one, nor would I ever.  Ever since I first became sexually active (even though my first experience was unwilling), I identified as a supporter of adoption (or just plain old toughing it out), as opposed to abortion.  If my mother could do it, so could I.  

      That being said, that is my personal opinion, and I disagree with pushing my moral judgements onto another human being.  You know what I think the difference between murder and abortion is — one is the destruction of an independent entity, the other is the destruction of a co-dependent entity.  The discomfort pertaining to abortion is actually very closely in-line with the discomfort pertaining to discontinuing life support.  

      Without digressing too badly, the main purpose of my argument is to cite that abortion (along with so many other social platforms) is not a federal issue, but rather an issue to be resolved by individual communities.  Largely, what I am advocating for is re-empowering the state to handle the issues that are important to its community members. 

      – At no point in time did I speak on the exoneration of responsibility or accountability on behalf of the individual.  I personally believe abortions to be terrible experiences for the person/people involved.  Honestly, I think it has a way of haunting an individual for the rest of their lives.  That in itself is enough punishment for me, however as for further moral punishments, I do not pretend to know the intent of any higher power.  Morality is an individual struggle. 

      – Pertaining to your question regarding when a fetus is officially alive, I do not profess to know the secrets of life and/or the soul.  In my opinion, no one does; so this is really a moot point of discussion for both sides of the house.  Some will say at the moment of insemination (but no one knows life’s secrets), and some will have an opinion laden with scientific jargon (but science can’t explain everything).  Me?  I believe life is a cycle, and present in all beings in some form or another at all stages of growth and development from the beginning of creation all the way until the body turns to dirt again (and even dirt is still teeming with life).  

      Hopefully, I’ve addressed all of your concerns.  The way I see it, you and I don’t disagree on whether or not abortion is wrong.  Sounds like we disagree on whether or not it is a federal issue.  And, well … I can understand why you think it might be.  However, when I look at our federal government, all pimped out in several layers of bureaucracy … I’d really like it to slim the hell down, get the hell out of the way, and put the power back in the hands of the people (whom I believe have unwittingly relinquished horrifying amounts of it throughout our country’s history) …


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